Some people mislabel justified anger by calling it bitterness
I believe even God would be justifyably angry with what the WTB&TS does in His name.
i cant help but think some of you guys are just tooooo angry for your past hurts.. weve all got terrible stories which can make us cry, but whats the motivation for such bitterness ?.
some people search out pervets, seemingly to lay these scumbags and their faults at the societys door.. others try to use thier bad times as an excuse to rubbish the entire religion.. i am not saying that jws are great, or that the society is perfect or undeserving of punishment.. but why are we not trying to even up the good points of the religion.. no smoking, no drugs, no abortion, on and on, and on.. and then try to remember the good times you all had at the meetings.
the laughs and the help you gave, and received.
Some people mislabel justified anger by calling it bitterness
I believe even God would be justifyably angry with what the WTB&TS does in His name.
september 1, 2002 www.torontosun.com reporter's email: [email protected] woman sues churchclaims jehovah's witnesses hid sex abuse.
by brodie fenlon -- toronto sun.
a new brunswick woman claims two jehovah's witness elders and the canadian church hid the sexual abuse she says she suffered at the hands of her father.
The online version of the Winnipeg Sun only has the first story. I will be going out to see if I can get a copy of it to compare to the online version.
Winnipeg Sun Woman sues church; claims abuse hidden
http://www.canoe.ca/WinnipegNews/09n2.html
BTW My birth name is Shirley Hardiman
Edited by - Lady Lee on 1 September 2002 9:48:9
i went in field service (tm) this morning!
sort of.
after recently reading posts about people having jws call at their door, about the extremely slow service walk (a.k.a.
That is so funny. I had to muffle my laughter so the neighbors didn't hear me. Good show - might try to find the local donut hand-out around here too :)
flower, this was a thread of yours i recalled so vividly.
i loved it!
i thought it might encourage you today.
flower - about 3 hour plane ride and $500 more than I have or a 25 hour drive in the car - sorry hun
for those of us raised as jw's .
for most of us we were never allowed to explore our full potential growing up.
never knowing if we could have been a great football player playing for the nfl or perhaps an actor or musician or even a doctor or lawyer.
My childhood dream was to be a counselor and help children who had been abused. I gave up any hope of post-secondary education when I was baptized at 17
I left the borg when i was 33. And I went back to my old childhood dream and returned to school. Except instead of working with the children I am working with the adults who were abused as children. And I love what I do. I might have been a lot further ahead in my career if I had been able to start earlier - but then I might have seen the dysfunction and abuse in the borg a lot earlier too.
flower, this was a thread of yours i recalled so vividly.
i loved it!
i thought it might encourage you today.
Now flower - didn't ya know that the lower flowers are the best? less wind down there
OK I admit it I can't type and didn't check
Now Canada is a mighty big place so just where are you going to be in this far white north - and hopefully not that far north - I'm not ready for snow yet
got this in my email this morning:.
dear friend,.
sese-seko of zaire?
I have gotten dozens of these stupid things. As soon as I block one they resend from a new addie Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
flower, this was a thread of yours i recalled so vividly.
i loved it!
i thought it might encourage you today.
Ditto Nikita - thanks for reposting.
Yup we need to remember what we do in a day
Flower I have missed you around here ((((((flower)))))) - you are like a fresh bouquet of lowers
dont know why but lately i do.
i feel so bad that i have been so mean to her lately.
but ever since i found out the real deal about the organization i havent been able to even hear her voice without being feeling angry at her.
((((flower))))) It is so very painful to believe you were not wanted and were not loved. I know from experience. Thjey say "a face only a mother could love" Mother love is proclaimed everywhere. But what happens to us kids when mother cannot love us - not because of who we are but because of who THEY are.
I only remember the rare hugs - probably can count them on one hand and I am 50 years old. I used to think it was me. My mother told me I screwed up her life. But you know what - I discovered other people can love me - unconditionally. And it other people can love me then it couldn't be me - it had to be her. I have since realized my mother is mentally ill. It took a long long time for me to be able to realize that. She has a lot of warped ideas about hugging kids and what love is. The borg doesn't make that any better - in fact I think it reinforces her illness and inability to show love.
Flower hon you are lovable. You have a little guy there that is proof of that. Children don't lie about their feelings at his age. He knows you are lovable and I bet he shows it. Listen to his heart and yours when you are with him. He is the absolutely best proof you will ever have that you are OK.
Take care flower and try to get some sleep.
just sharing a bit of news that i recieved today from my only living parent,my mama.my mama is a full fledged in the borg programed subject.the phone call came today.she said she was a bad girl and had been disobedient and that this would be her last phone call.at first she softened the blow by saying "honey.i just called to tell you how much i love you"i responded with a inner smile and said "awe,that's so nice,i love you too"she then said "no,you don't understand i am calling to tell you that this will be our last communication other then emergency and death situations"i then kinda of lost it.i informed her that was crap!i mean back in 1981 you cut me and my siblings off for 12 years,then after we have survived or at least were functional in our lives you come back and say"opps,sorry but there is new light and now we can love you again".
during this time i being a dutiful daughter,forgave them and welcomed them back into my life which had been missing there love.it was so nice being able to do things for them and care for them when they were ill.visits became a yearly occurence and they even visited with me.. although this was not in the least unexpected,it is still a shock.i have reacted in various ways.if i am dead too her then she is dead too me.i don't give flowers to dead people,i show unconditional love to them when they are living and can recipercate by giving unconditional love in return.. as far as recieving health bulletins or in my case calling and saying"hi,mama my hep c is whatever".
i am not calling period.. it may seem foolish and childish but i have removed her pictures.the ones of her and dad together are still on my wall.. it is a sad day when your parent,the one who gave birth to you says she loves you but can't show you.. she said it is in the bible,but when my siblings and i ask where she says i can't tell you because you are in the dark and not allowing the light.
Sooner it sounds like you are angry - with good reason. The Borg teaches people that love is a switch that goes on and off at their whim. It is hard not to be angry with those who go along with this crap
Whether the borg wants to acknowledge they split up families or not the reality is that is exactly what they do to protect themsleves. It has nothing to do with God or the Bible.
It sounds like you really need time away from your mother and all this nonsense. Take it. If you have to tell them something health related make a healthy decision about if and how to do it, based on your health not theirs. If you think it will hurt more to tell them and get no response then be kind to yourself.
In this whole situation family becomes who we choose - not who we were born with. I am an orphan. Many of us are orphans - WT orphans. MY family is who I choose now and not dictated by the whims of a cult
Take care of yourself and (((((Sooner)))))